Toonbots message board: 9/16

Michael Mon Sep 17 02:34:26 2001 Re: 9/16 > Did conjure up an amusing image of groups trying to decipher Bot's > dialogue, though. Well, given that the *weekend* referrals from Framed!!! are more per day than I usually see in a week.... I figured they should get a little helping hand. Thanks for the compliment. I'm having fun -- but today's was a bear to finish. Took me... about two hours. That's a lot more time than I usually waste^H^H^H^H^H spend on Toonbots.

mouse Mon Sep 17 14:15:19 2001 Re: 9/16 personally i am loving the toon-o-matic's dialogue (monologue?)- but i can't find the script for the other webtoons for the translations........

Michael Mon Sep 17 16:43:47 2001 Re: 9/16 > personally i am loving the toon-o-matic's dialogue (monologue?)- but i > can't find the script for the other webtoons for the translations........ That's cause they're lame. Notice the very end of Boarders and Sister today? Hee, hee.

mouse Tue Sep 18 12:30:59 2001 Re: 9/16 > Notice the very end of Boarders and Sister today? Hee, hee. yeeah.......? the 'next: more wolverines' or ???? (i don't really know the other comics ---- well, i have to work _sometimes_ or i couldn't afford the online service) (also: do you mean today today, or yesterday today? (or even tomorrow today - you know, your record on date positioning is a little....well, no point in dredging up old stories. when are you, anyway? - i keep noticing i am posting in the future.)

Brother Emsworth Tue Sep 18 14:41:20 2001 Date/Time Confusion > yeeah.......? the 'next: more wolverines' or ???? ( The "Next: More Wolverines," of course. > (also: do you mean today today, or yesterday today? He meant the strip for Sep. 17, which is when the strip was posted (This has nothing to do with the way Michael chooses to date his own strips.) I'm uncertain as to which time zone the Toonbots forum is in, but it's always at least 2 hours or so ahead from MST.

Michael Tue Sep 18 15:20:05 2001 Re: 9/16 > yeeah.......? the 'next: more wolverines' or ???? Emsworth got it. It was specially for him anyway. :-) > (also: do you mean today today, or yesterday today? (or even tomorrow > today - you know, your record on date positioning is a little....well, no > point in dredging up old stories. when are you, anyway? - i keep noticing > i am posting in the future.) I meant today. Except it was yesterday. As to when I am, the only possible answer is "now." The time zone, however, is Indiana time. That means right now it's Central time, but when the rest of you switch your clocks back and we don't bother, it will be Eastern time. If you check your Windows time zone settings, you'll see that Indiana has its own entry. How cool is *that*? Pretty darned cool.

Brother Emsworth Tue Sep 18 17:01:19 2001 Re: 9/16 > Emsworth got it. It was specially for him anyway. :-) HOORAY!!! (Though I'm still inclined to doubt that you have any true intention of showing any wolverines within Toonbots during this cross-over. Still, there's enough other elements to keep one amused, and it seems as if the other strips may compensate. Personally, I'm rather hoping that we see Mao and Dick meet before this is all over.)

mouse Tue Sep 18 17:29:46 2001 Re: 9/16 well, at least he _mentioned_ the wolverines. so who's Dick?

Brother Emsworth Tue Sep 18 17:50:48 2001 Re: 9/16 >well, at least he _mentioned_ the wolverines. He mentions them primarily to taunt us with false promises despite the reality of their continued absence. > so who's Dick? Richard M. Nixon, who has achieved a new lease on life as a recurring character in FRAMED!! Considering Nixon and Mao's real life involvement, it would seem to me that a confrontation between their webtoon alter-egos is too good an opportunity to be missed. Jackson Pollock has also had a significant presence in that strip as an off-screen presence.

mouse Tue Sep 18 18:00:41 2001 Re: 9/16 > He mentions them primarily to taunt us with false promises despite the > reality of their continued absence. welllll......yes....but...well, at least it shows he's still thinking about them...doesn't it? (i was going to say, they were still green in his memory, but green wolverines would be a bit much) > Richard M. Nixon, who has achieved a new lease on life as a recurring > character in FRAMED!! Considering Nixon and Mao's real life involvement, > it would seem to me that a confrontation between their webtoon alter-egos > is too good an opportunity to be missed. i wondered if that was who you meant - couldn't remember if he had gone over to china while mao was still alive (which would have meant they had _already_ met, and would now be renewing aquaintance). like i said, not as familiar with the casts of these other strips. > Jackson Pollock has also had a significant presence in that strip as an > off-screen presence. wouldn't that then make it a significant _non_-presence? :)

Brother Emsworth Tue Sep 18 18:38:05 2001 Re: 9/16 > i wondered if that was who you meant - couldn't remember if he had gone > over to china while mao was still alive (which would have meant they had > _already_ met, and would now be renewing aquaintance). As I meant to indicate. Mao and Nixon had indeed met in real life. For their webtoon personas, though, they might be renewing acquaintances, they might be meeting for the first time, who knows? Given the way Toonbots has presented actual persons (living and dead), Michael and the other collaborators could choose to ignore that fact entirely, if they like. (If you have time, might not hurt to read the incidents in Framed!!! leading up to this cross-over, but as those involved cross-overs with still other strips and artists, it might take a while. It's all been a very elaborate set-up. Pity Napoleon and her snail weren't invited to participate, though. A little defenestration could only add to the fun.) > wouldn't that then make it a significant _non_-presence? :) I meant to say "off-screen character," but he plays a significant role. If you'd rather use the term "influence," that's fine, but he's certainly there, just not entirely visible. The reader's simply don't see his face, but he threatens the other characters with his tendency to toss paint and whatnot at people whenever he approaches. He's portrayed as a semi-stereotypical jungle wildman.

mouse Tue Sep 18 19:18:26 2001 Re: 9/16 > Given the way Toonbots has > presented actual persons (living and dead), Michael and the other > collaborators could choose to ignore that fact entirely, if they like. well, true - if michael can have castro speaking in french, clearly any insistence on connecting this stuff with reality - well, sorta fails to connect to reality. (certainly in other posts i have attempted to disassociate myself from reality entirely) (and if you guys don't start at least _pretending_ to laugh at those, i'm just going to sit in the middle of the room and sulk) (i mean, you could even harass me about them - just so i know you _saw_ them) (not that i'm desperate for attention or anything) (i mean, it's not like it even _bothers_ me that nobody except michael and emsworth even _talks_ to me anymore) *sigh* i keep telling myself i'm going to stop reading archives and do some real work......... (or i guess i could save time by not posting since nobody even cares _anyway_ *snf*) i'm going back under the bed now. *snf* (you'll miss me. you'll see. *sob*)

Chris Wed Sep 19 00:35:37 2001 Re: 9/16 > well, true - if michael can have castro speaking in french, clearly any > insistence on connecting this stuff with reality - well, sorta fails to > connect to reality. (certainly in other posts i have attempted to > disassociate myself from reality entirely) (and if you guys don't start at > least _pretending_ to laugh at those, i'm just going to sit in the middle > of the room and sulk) (i mean, you could even harass me about them - just > so i know you _saw_ them) (not that i'm desperate for attention or > anything) (i mean, it's not like it even _bothers_ me that nobody except > michael and emsworth even _talks_ to me anymore) (Who is he again? [He can't be anyone we know {_I_ know (Well, excuse me, Mister Pedant [You sickening twit, how dare you say that about me?! {Will both of you shut up, we're about to be attacked by punctuation}])}])aaaaaarrrgggghhh

mouse Wed Sep 19 01:08:20 2001 Re: 9/16 > (Who is he again? [He can't be anyone we know {_I_ know (Well, excuse me, > Mister Pedant [You sickening twit, how dare you say that about me?! {Will > both of you shut up, we're about to be attacked by > punctuation}])}])aaaaaarrrgggghhh he who? who he? (woo who!) michael is of course the metacartoonist, the great progressive timeless being who lights our humble existances, he who without whom we-he would be wandering aimlessly in the jihad-less dark. (boy, it's _amazing_ what a little chocolate can do for a person's mood, isn't it?) (and i am in awe of your daring use of multiple paren types. i tried using greater than/less than ones to break up the monotony, and it made all my text go away)(and _NO_, i will not listen to any suggestions that i should do that more in the future) hey, i got both chris _and_ eric to start talking again! i rule! I AM MAGNIFICENT! (note to self - stick with _half_ a bar of the bittersweet)

Michael Wed Sep 19 02:26:26 2001 Re: 9/16 > (i mean, you could even harass me about them - just > so i know you _saw_ them) I saw them, and laughed. Just really late. Tuesday is ... a long day for me. (Conference call about data management, then homeschool, then daughter goes to local elementary for music class, then short pause for son's nap, then daughter has tennis class at Parks and Rec, then multiple attempts to find/pick up wife, then supper, then T'ai Chi class for *me* for once, then translated a few thousand words, then dealt with today's/tomorrow's crossover episode, then read forum while attempting to deal with some of the day's flood of email and catching up with the rest of Webtoondom). Typical day.

mouse Wed Sep 19 12:32:00 2001 Re: 9/16 > I saw them, and laughed. Just really late. Tuesday is ... a long day for > me. (Conference call about data management, then homeschool, then daughter > goes to local elementary for music class, then short pause for son's nap, > then daughter has tennis class at Parks and Rec, then multiple attempts to > find/pick up wife, then supper, then T'ai Chi class for *me* for once, > then translated a few thousand words, then dealt with today's/tomorrow's > crossover episode, then read forum while attempting to deal with some of > the day's flood of email and catching up with the rest of Webtoondom). what you're trying to say is, you actually have a _life_ - right? go on, say it, i _dare_ you. hey, i could have a life if i wanted one. in fact, i've _got_ one, right here, under the bed, with my _friends_, the dust bunnies. (they laugh and dance whenever i say funny stuff.) (actually they seem to dance whatever i say.....and that laughter i'm hearing now better be just general cheerfulness, dust bunnies.....)

Michael Wed Sep 19 14:14:24 2001 Re: 9/16 > what you're trying to say is, you actually have a _life_ - right? go on, > say it, i _dare_ you. Against all expectations -- yes. I have a life. Go figure. Today, the basement stairs fell in. Again. I hate it when they do that.

mouse Wed Sep 19 17:37:10 2001 Re: 9/16 > Today, the basement stairs fell in. Again. well -- your life sounds.....exciting, i guess........ don't you _work_ in the basement? -- man, you put the hazards of a freeway commute into a whole new perspective. (or is this just a new excuse re: wolverines? "sorry, emsworth, i was _really_ going to put the wolverines in this time, but the basement stairs fell in")

Michael Wed Sep 19 17:57:30 2001 Re: 9/16 > don't you _work_ in the basement? Um, well, yes. Fortunately I have a ladder. The basic construction of this house is excellent, although outdated in some respects (block basement instead of concrete) -- limestone veneer on a frame construction, nice house. But in between building it and my buying it, some real hillbilly put some "work" into it... The basement stairs being one of the results. Poor design; the steps are nailed in from the sides, but there's nothing holding the sides together at the bottom. The result is that over time the sides work away from one another, and given enough time, the bottom steps fall out. So I've ripped out the bottom five steps and I'm going to glue and screw them in instead of nailing. Or rather, in addition to nailing. I hope that'll help. > (or is this just a new excuse re: wolverines? "sorry, emsworth, i was > _really_ going to put the wolverines in this time, but the basement stairs > fell in") I *will*, eventually, put wolverines in. Not this week, though. Even if I weren't too busy with actual life, this Damonk crossover is real work to do. Ugh.

mouse Wed Sep 19 18:20:28 2001 Re: 9/16 > the steps are nailed in from > the sides, but there's nothing holding the sides together at the bottom. i am always deeply impressed by people who actually manage to work on their own houses (it took major resolve for me to just replace some fluorescent light bulbs because i thought i actually needed a new ballast, but figured as long as i didn't replace the bulbs i could reassure myself it was just the bulbs) altho sometimes explanations like this are the reason i am intimidated....aren't the steps on _top_? how do they get nailed in from the sides? can't you just tie the sides together at the bottom? (i mean like with a rod or something, not like string -- altho maybe that would negatively impact the asthetics) Anyway, good luck. > I *will*, eventually, put wolverines in. yeah, yeah, yeah - even _i've_ been around long enough to have heard _that_ one before.

Michael Thu Sep 20 14:54:59 2001 Re: 9/16 > i am always deeply impressed by people who actually manage to work on > their own houses Well, I tend to get halfway done and stop. If that's not enough like software, you can also tell by my carpentry that I use a prototype-test-modify development cycle, because the boxing under the toilet is ... creative. > (it took major resolve for me to just replace some > fluorescent light bulbs because i thought i actually needed a new ballast, > but figured as long as i didn't replace the bulbs i could reassure myself > it was just the bulbs) Well, that's often the best way to handle technical problems. > altho sometimes explanations like this are the reason i am > intimidated....aren't the steps on _top_? how do they get nailed in from > the sides? By hiring a hillbilly to do your design. > can't you just tie the sides together at the bottom? (i mean > like with a rod or something, not like string -- altho maybe that would > negatively impact the asthetics) I'm not worried about aesthetics nearly as much as by the steps falling out of the stairs. I'm also thinking of a rod, yes. I think it's probably the only way to solve the problem. But I don't have a threader, so ... I guess I could just buy rods which were threaded all the way along.... Good, mouse. You've just convinced me that's the best solution. Thanks. And you thought you weren't a hardware specialist! > yeah, yeah, yeah - even _i've_ been around long enough to have heard > _that_ one before. We haven't actually come to the end of "eventually" yet. The wolverines need some design before they'll make sense. (Well, as much sense as they'll make to start with.) Although I had considered drawing them as colored floating circles that have the capacity to open big, toothy mouths. But even there, the Toon-o-Matic can't draw toothy mouths yet. And floating colored circles without toothy mouths just lack a certain ... oomph. It's all or nothing, I'm afraid.

mouse Thu Sep 20 17:03:54 2001 Re: 9/16 > And you thought you weren't a hardware specialist! hardware _specialist_?! - i start mumbling chants and waving garlic at the sysadmin whenever he even _mentions_ hardware (until he utters the magic syllables "larger hard drive") > But even there, the Toon-o-Matic can't draw toothy mouths > yet. i thought you had done some wolverine sketches (which were _entirely_ toothy mouths as i recall) - or were those done (shudder!) freehand? (i could of course go back into the archives and check that, but that would actually require effort) > And floating colored circles without toothy mouths just lack a > certain ... oomph. certainly they would lack any essential wolverineness (wolverines being neither circular nor floating, and rather inordinately toothy). actually floating colored circles are (technically) balloons -- i suppose, if you got really desperate, you could pass them off as balloon wolverines.....

Michael Thu Sep 20 22:22:35 2001 Re: 9/16 > ... wolverine sketches ... freehand? Paintbrush, graphics editor of champions. All the Jihad sketches were done with Paintbrush -- otherwise they would have been playing much larger parts in Toonbots. > certainly they would lack any essential wolverineness (wolverines being > neither circular nor floating, and rather inordinately toothy). Precisely my problem. But they'd be easy to draw. > actually floating colored circles are (technically) balloons -- i suppose, > if you got really desperate, you could pass them off as balloon > wolverines..... Balloon wolverines... Yeah, that has possibilities.

Brother Emsworth Fri Sep 21 08:24:36 2001 Re: 9/16 > Balloon wolverines... Yeah, that has possibilities. Technically, a true balloon wolverine would be made using *pencil* balloons, so it would be cosed more of thinnish oblong ovals than pure circles. Enough small circles in sequence might be sufficient to create the appropriate effect, though.

Eric Schissel Wed Sep 19 21:50:15 2001 Re: 9/16 > Um, well, yes. Fortunately I have a ladder. > The basic construction of this house is excellent, although outdated in > some respects (block basement instead of concrete) -- limestone veneer on > a frame construction, nice house. But in between building it and my buying > it, some real hillbilly put some "work" into it... The basement > stairs being one of the results. Poor design; the steps are nailed in from > the sides, but there's nothing holding the sides together at the bottom. > The result is that over time the sides work away from one another, and > given enough time, the bottom steps fall out. > So I've ripped out the bottom five steps and I'm going to glue and screw > them in instead of nailing. Or rather, in addition to nailing. I hope > that'll help. Eep. Good luck with all that. In re blurb etc. (Shush, Charles Ives.) It's been years since I took my one year of college German. How -does- 'innerlichkeit' differ from innigkeit? > I *will*, eventually, put wolverines in. Not this week, though. Even if I > weren't too busy with actual life, this Damonk crossover is real work to > do. Am all anticipation. -Eric Schissel

Michael Thu Sep 20 15:00:59 2001 Re: 9/16 > It's been years since I took my one year of college German. How -does- > 'innerlichkeit' differ from innigkeit? Innerlichkeit: das Nach-innen-Gewandtsein; Verinnerlichung; Tiefe des Gemuets, des Innenlebens: seine Dichtung zeugt von einer starken I. Innigkeit: [mhd. innecheit]: das Innigsein, teife Empfindung; Herzlichkeit: die I. ihrer teilnehmenden Worte, ihres Blickes. Innerlichkeit is more a meditative quality; a monk has Innerlichkeit. Innigkeit is a more emotional quality. That's how I'd characterize it, but the difference is one of nuance. BUT more to the point, I wrote the blurb at 2 AM. Don't look for too much meaning.

mouse Thu Sep 20 16:52:32 2001 and in english: (courtesy of (three guesses)): > Innerlichkeit: das Nach-innen-Gewandtsein; Verinnerlichung; Tiefe des > Gemuets, des Innenlebens: seine Dichtung zeugt von einer starken I. Internalness: the postinterior post+interior-turn-turning its; Verinnerlichung; Deep one of the mind, the interior life: its seal witnesses from a strong I. > Innigkeit: [mhd. innecheit]: das Innigsein, teife Empfindung; > Herzlichkeit: die I. ihrer teilnehmenden Worte, ihres Blickes. Intimateness: mhd. innecheit ]: the intimate its, teife feeling; Cordialness: I. of its participating words, their view. > Innerlichkeit is more a meditative quality; a monk has Innerlichkeit. > Innigkeit is a more emotional quality. i think that "postinterior post+interior-turn-turning its" makes clear that this indeed a meditative quality; i am sure any monk reading this 'toon would agree that this is exactly what he has. > its seal witnesses from a strong I. eric, i think this may be a pointer to future toonbots directions; clearly this is pointing back to the penguin emperor (the "strong I"), and our proposed takeover of antarctica (which the seals would, of course, witness). > Cordialness this means michael is inviting us all over to indulge in liqueurs. (thanks!) > I. of its participating words this is less clear, but must again refer to the penguin emperor ('I.') - possibly pointing to a democratization of the takeover process - or maybe a upcoming slogan contest to popularize the toonbot cereal line. > BUT more to the point so - when did we start worrying about the point?

Brother Emsworth Sun Sep 23 23:06:51 2001 Re: 9/16 > (or is this just a new excuse re: wolverines? "sorry, emsworth, i was > _really_ going to put the wolverines in this time, but the basement stairs > fell in") Kept meaning to address this, but for the record, I've never expressed any great doubt in Michael's statement that he'll get to the wolverines eventually. I understand these things take time, do not wish to rush him unduly, and expect him to render them when he's able. It's not so much the fact that the wolverines haven't appeared as the fact that Michael has been using the "NEXT: WOLVERINE" panels to taunt us, as he surely must know whether or not he's able to render them yet. And the mere fact that he knows this has begun to annoy me slightly ensures that he will continue to use the gag, as it's typical of his surly, sometimes callous sense of humour to contribute to the stress and disappointment of his most faithful Jihad members. Jerk.

Michael Mon Sep 24 12:45:55 2001 Re: 9/16 > as it's typical of his surly, sometimes > callous sense of humour to contribute to the stress and disappointment of > his most faithful Jihad members. Jerk. MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Brother Emsworth Mon Sep 24 14:13:58 2001 Re: 9/16 > MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Humph. When the wolverines themselves eventually come to a definite decision regarding th eproper response to your shabby treatment of them, don't say I didn't warn you.

mouse Mon Sep 24 13:27:17 2001 Re: 9/16 > callous sense of humour to contribute to the stress and disappointment of > his most faithful Jihad members. Jerk. well....he _is_ the orange guy.....

Brother Emsworth Mon Sep 24 14:06:48 2001 Re: 9/16 > well....he _is_ the orange guy..... Well, I'd say it's more the jerk BoxJam rubbing off on him than merely being presented as the orange guy in BoxJam's Doodle. The Orange Guy, as seen objectively within the strip, seems fairly harmless, and even rather amiable. It's merely BoxJam who views him as a jerk. Then again, as I've said before, it's probably inevitable that spontaneous combustion should take it's toll on a person's good humour.

mouse Mon Sep 24 15:10:18 2001 spontaneous combustion? forgive me if i am overly intrusive - but why are you suddenly spontaneously combusting? (and what yellow signs?) yrs humbly, concerned.

Brother Emsworth Mon Sep 24 18:34:51 2001 Re: spontaneous combustion? > forgive me if i am overly intrusive - but why are you suddenly > spontaneously combusting? (and what yellow signs?) I was referring to the Orange Guy (aka Michael). The strip in question can be found here: http://www.boxjamsdoodle.com/d/20010327.html I had gathered that you were already familiar with the character. When you have the time, it might not hurt to read more of BoxJam's archives.

Brother Emsworth Mon Sep 24 18:43:28 2001 Re: spontaneous combustion? > I was referring to the Orange Guy (aka Michael). The strip in question can > be found here: http://www.boxjamsdoodle.com/d/20010327.html Ahem. Accidentally pasted the wrong URL. *Here* is the strip in question. http://www.boxjamsdoodle.com/d/20010326.html

mouse Tue Sep 25 14:11:52 2001 Re: spontaneous combustion? actually i think i did get back to that one (i knew i got a firm connection with the orange guy and 'jerk' somewhere) - but somehow i was envisioning _you_ doing the flash-to-ash thing in front of, i don't know, a yield sign or something...(and in my defense, the sign in the cartoon isn't actually yellow)

Brother Emsworth Tue Sep 25 16:24:08 2001 Re: spontaneous combustion? > (and in my defense, the sign in the cartoon > isn't actually yellow) Not in that particular strip, true. In most cases, though, the "Wait Here Sign" is yellow. Been a little while sicne I'd closely examined that particular doodle, though I remembered the gag well.

mouse Tue Sep 18 17:43:11 2001 Re: 9/16 > I meant today. Except it was yesterday. As to when I am, the only possible > answer is "now." no, _i'm_ in now -- and the forum is in the future. this is very clear to me. maybe it's easier to understand in larger denominations. right now, it's 1537 18Sep2001. if something were to happen right...._now_ in say, china, the dateline would be 19Sep2001. which is _after_ 18Sep2001 ---- so it happened _in the future_. just like my post will be. (*sigh* this one of those concepts men seem to have great difficulty with. i was talking this over with a physicist friend a while back and he kept assuring me that time happened simultaneously all over the world, which is clearly wrong because if it all happened simultaneously i would get to work a lot faster.) maybe my ability to post in the future is a sign of my forward-thinkingness.

Eric Schissel Tue Sep 18 21:27:39 2001 Re: 9/16 > (*sigh* this one of those concepts men seem to have great difficulty with. > i was talking this over with a physicist friend a while back and he kept > assuring me that time happened simultaneously all over the world, which is > clearly wrong because if it all happened simultaneously i would get to > work a lot faster.) True. Whenever someone tries to discuss this with me I'm inclined to say "Now, now" (and pat myself reassuringly because the subject makes my brain hurt.) > maybe my ability to post in the future is a sign of my > forward-thinkingness. Certainly! Progressive thinking, (time zones caused by and causing) solar (per)plexity (enough obtuse puns and I will be doubled over in some sort of reaction, it merely remains to be seen which,) and in some events (surely not in -any-!) if you think this is bad... consider that on the Keen boards the Standard Time is Pacific, so if you're tapping happily away east of Mr. Roberts' Central (Mountain?) Time as you seem to be implying (likewise here- Eastern Time for me) then you're two (or so) more hours in the future ahead of the Keensp* boards. All because someone decided that it shouldn't be day at 8 pip emma... -Eric Schissel probably going off subject 77 times and hoping he has not given offense to anyone.

mouse Wed Sep 19 00:51:07 2001 timely response hey eric! i was _wondering_ what happened to everybody (although i was _perfectly_ happy just talking to michael and br. emsworth, honest, guys, i was) how can i _possibly_ be offended by someone who agrees with me? (and after all, _my_ running aimlessly askew from the subject got _you_ back talking again) however i feel i should point out that i am actually on the left coast, so i'm two hours _ahead_ (no, wait - michael is in the future so i must be behind -- but that can't be right if _i'm_ the forward-thinker) (altho we must all admit that the metacartoonist is clearly A Man Ahead of His Time)(or at any rate not directly aligned with it). anyway, i think to be two hours - um - the _other_ side of him, i would need to be paddling around in the atlantic. (which actually i could get into, except they seem to be having all these sharks) (we seem to have no sharks because they probably all froze to death this summer). > All because someone decided that it shouldn't be day at 8 pip emma. well, not _now_ it isn't -- and isn't that a depressing turn of events? i'm considering migrating between the artic and antarctic circles myself (all daylight all the time!) -- except they both seem to have all this snow and ice stuff. did i tell you that the industrial revolution (abetted by coffee) brought about the modern concept of time? personally i think this was a Bad Idea (the time thing, i mean, altho the i.r. had its problems too) - i think with the internet and the global economy it is time to back to cottage industry. how's _that_ for going off subject? anyway, glad to talk to you again!

Eric Schissel Wed Sep 19 22:53:13 2001 Re: timely response > hey eric! Yes, the cat (there's only one, it's all done with mirrors) has dragged me in... *g* > i was _wondering_ what happened to everybody (although i was _perfectly_ > happy just talking to michael and br. emsworth, honest, guys, i was) Good good > how can i _possibly_ be offended by someone who agrees with me? (and after > all, _my_ running aimlessly askew from the subject got _you_ back talking > again) Much as I would like to rhapsodize on the gravitic forces of scatter (your ramble and - well - my brain .tout court.) - it was probably more relevant if more prosaic that I really needed a break from my latest music projects, not to mention expressing relief that some other work was done, and other things... > however i feel i should point out that i am actually on the left coast, so > i'm two hours _ahead_ (no, wait - michael is in the future so i must be > behind -- but that can't be right if _i'm_ the forward-thinker) Time Loops cereal. Now in family size, just right for those long trips. > (altho we > must all admit that the metacartoonist is clearly A Man Ahead of His > Time)(or at any rate not directly aligned with it). anyway, i think to be > two hours - um - the _other_ side of him, i would need to be paddling > around in the atlantic. (which actually i could get into, except they seem > to be having all these sharks) (we seem to have no sharks because they > probably all froze to death this summer). Suggesting: left coast, south of equator. Or maybe not. [In re: day at 8 pip emma] > well, not _now_ it isn't -- and isn't that a depressing turn of events? > i'm considering migrating between the artic and antarctic circles myself > (all daylight all the time!) -- except they both seem to have all this > snow and ice stuff. 8 o'clock, twilight, and the sun won't set... hrm- where was I... No, on 2nd thought, although in a few days it will simply be Too Late for smiles and summer nights, I just don't live there. The wrong berg entirely, man. > did i tell you that the industrial revolution (abetted by coffee) brought > about the modern concept of time? personally i think this was a Bad Idea > (the time thing, i mean, altho the i.r. had its problems too) - i think > with the internet and the global economy it is time to back to cottage > industry. Certainly a subject that could be discussed, and while I don't agree (I do have some thoughts of my own both about the proper role of time and urgency and about organization- I'm the sort who looks at the kibbutzim (what I know of them anyhow) as good starting points, though not as be-alls and end-alls, for one thing- anyhow, thoughts which aren't in a very coherent state nor a very interesting one at the moment I fear...) I do agree it's worth discussing... > how's _that_ for going off subject? > anyway, glad to talk to you again! Likewise, much. -Eric Schissel

mouse Thu Sep 20 12:57:25 2001 cereal empire! (i was tempted to say 'serial' just for the pun -- but the crossover seems to have gotten into some sort of pileup over at the keenspot server - that can be the problem with this sort thing, one guy hits the brakes suddenly and, well, there you are.) > Time Loops cereal. Now in family size, just right for those long trips. put this together with pickle crisp, and the one with the subliminal messages, and we are on our way to becoming the general mills of the metafictional breakfast market! this has real possibilities.....lenin as head of marketing, i can see mao deciding to come in as chief financial officer, or maybe head of personnel....... anyway, congrats on finishing.....whatever it was you finished.

Eric Schissel Thu Sep 20 14:16:44 2001 Re: cereal empire! > (i was tempted to say 'serial' just for the pun -- but the crossover seems > to have gotten into some sort of pileup over at the keenspot server - that > can be the problem with this sort thing, one guy hits the brakes suddenly > and, well, there you are.) Indeed :( > put this together with pickle crisp, and the one with the subliminal > messages, and we are on our way to becoming the general mills of the > metafictional breakfast market! this has real possibilities.....lenin as > head of marketing, i can see mao deciding to come in as chief financial > officer, or maybe head of personnel....... Ow. > anyway, congrats on finishing.....whatever it was you finished. Newsletter. (I'm - if anyone cares! - minutes secretary for a network integration company, liaison and newsletter editor for a peer-run social club/empowerment organization for and by consumers of mental health services, and webmaster for an autism support group. Doesn't really fill my week, so other things in my spare time...) -Eric Schissel

mouse Thu Sep 20 17:26:32 2001 Re: cereal empire! >> lenin as >> head of marketing, i can see mao ... head of personnel....... > Ow. oh wow - that wasn't even intentional.

Michael Wed Sep 19 02:10:48 2001 Re: 9/16 > -Eric Schissel probably going off subject 77 times and hoping he has not > given offense to anyone. I'd like to take this opportunity to note that with Toonbots you have no hope of being *on* subject, so your departure can hardly offend anyone. Besides, you're titled.