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Michael Tue Aug 21 16:19:56 2001
A panoply of semiotic allusive constructs

I slaved over that turn of phrase, I can tell you!

Seven dailies in a row! You people never had it so good! This is, by the bye, the 74th episode of Toonbots. Amazing that it got into the double digits in the first place, but at this rate, I could be looking at strip 100 by late September, assuming the daily pace is sustainable.

Weird, I tell you. Weird.

Napoleon Tue Aug 21 20:33:41 2001
Re: A panoply of semiotic allusive constructs

> Seven dailies in a row! You people never had it so good!

You're just doing this so you can cut us off once we're used to it and then laugh at our pain, aren't you.

Brother Emsworth Tue Aug 21 21:27:28 2001
Re: A panoply of semiotic allusive constructs

> You're just doing this so you can cut us off once we're used to it and
> then laugh at our pain, aren't you.

He's a fiend, he is. Just like last time when he updated four times in a row, or so. It makes the lengthy gaps all the more difficult.

::wolverines growl ominously in Michael's direction::

Ignoring this possible slight streak of sadism for the nonce, though, a very amusing instalemnt today. I've always enjoyed those Toonbots which have been in verse (you're not familiar with some of Norman Corwin's verse radio plays, are you, Michael?) And indeed, the blurbs have been especially notable of late. So capital job, o possibly fiendish meta-cartoonist.

Michael Tue Aug 21 22:41:00 2001
Re: A panoply of semiotic allusive constructs

> Ignoring this possible slight streak of sadism for the nonce, though, a
> very amusing instalemnt today.

Thank you! No, Napoleon, it's not sadism, just getting too busy. Although I admit that it does provide me with a modicum of amusement thinking about all the weeping Jihad members... Seriously, when I finish an episode, I grin ear to ear and think, "They're going to *love* this." Then a couple of hours later, I think, "This one was really stupid." And then weeks later when I reread the archives, which I do sometimes, I think, "This stuff is just plain weird. What moron writes this tripe, anyway?" See, I've sufficiently dissociated my ego from it by then.

> I've always enjoyed those Toonbots which
> have been in verse (you're not familiar with some of Norman Corwin's verse
> radio plays, are you, Michael?)

Sigh. No, as you've doubtless by now recognized, my education in anything pre-1980 is deficient to an extreme. All I know I've learned from science fiction. Granted, there's a lot you can learn from science fiction -- but there's a lot you can't. I have tried to read literature, with some success, but that tremendous gap comprising the greater part of the Twentieth Century is empty.

> And indeed, the blurbs have been
> especially notable of late.

Thanks. I honestly don't know whether I can keep it up. But "semiotic allusive contructs," now that was inspired.

Chris Wed Aug 22 02:01:37 2001
Re: A panoply of semiotic allusive constructs

> Thanks. I honestly don't know whether I can keep it up. But "semiotic
> allusive contructs," now that was inspired.

You HAVE been reading too much sci-fi, haven't you? "Semiotic allusive construct" sounds kind of like sci-fi-speak for a mobile home.

"Hey, man, can ya spare a Galactidollar for a fermented yeast potable?"

"Hmph. Semiotic-allusive-construct-trash."

Michael Wed Aug 22 11:06:31 2001
Re: A panoply of semiotic allusive constructs

> You HAVE been reading too much sci-fi, haven't you? "Semiotic
> allusive construct" sounds kind of like sci-fi-speak for a mobile
> home.

No, not sci-fi -- cognitive science. Far weirder.

anonymouse Wed Aug 22 16:41:53 2001
blurbs

but you _must_ keep up the blurbs - they're mostly what i come for (altho the rhymes are growing on me)

Michael Wed Aug 22 20:37:56 2001
Re: blurbs

> but you _must_ keep up the blurbs - they're mostly what i come for (altho
> the rhymes are growing on me)

But you _must_ pay the rent! But I _can't_ pay the rent! I'm going to talk to the dolphins now.

mouse Thu Aug 23 15:34:35 2001
Re: blurbs

_that's_ the spirit! dolphins have just the sort of intellectual-but-askew sense of humor that i am sure you will find inspiring. (however they can be a bit tightfisted, so you're probably on your own with the rent)

Michael Thu Aug 23 20:32:47 2001
Re: blurbs

> _that's_ the spirit! dolphins have just the sort of intellectual-but-askew
> sense of humor that i am sure you will find inspiring. (however they can
> be a bit tightfisted, so you're probably on your own with the rent)

Unfortunately, that was a quote, from _Hudson Hawk_. It's harder to come up with original nonsense than is immediately apparent to the uninitiated.

mouse Fri Aug 24 13:26:46 2001
Re: blurbs

what can i say - i don't get out much (i don't know tho - hudson hawk??)

on the other hand - see how easy it is to keep us ignorant people amused?

Michael Fri Aug 24 13:42:01 2001
Hudson Hawk

> what can i say - i don't get out much (i don't know tho - hudson hawk??)

If you like Toonbots, there's a good chance you'll like Hudson Hawk (Bruce Willis movie). Go rent it.

mouse Fri Aug 24 17:20:12 2001
Re: Hudson Hawk

i did rather like 12 monkeys -- guess i assumed all he did when he had more hair was 'die hard' stuff. i'll put it on my list...

Michael Sat Aug 25 01:17:58 2001
Re: Hudson Hawk

> i did rather like 12 monkeys -- guess i assumed all he did when he had
> more hair was 'die hard' stuff. i'll put it on my list...

You must be younger than I am -- Bruce Willis started out on TV in "Moonlighting," which was a comedy and in which he played a tough-guy kind of character. I didn't see it much (I was out of the country during that time) but I did love the episode or two I saw later.

_Hudson Hawk_ was (I think) his first movie, and he played essentially the same character. It's basically an action cartoon shot live-action. Plus some of it was filmed in Budapest. So it's gotta be good, right?

Eric Schissel Sat Aug 25 11:32:50 2001
Re: Hudson Hawk

Michael writes:
> You must be younger than I am -- Bruce Willis started out on TV in
> "Moonlighting," which was a comedy and in which he played a
> tough-guy kind of character. I didn't see it much (I was out of the
> country during that time) but I did love the episode or two I saw later.

> _Hudson Hawk_ was (I think) his first movie, and he played essentially the
> same character. It's basically an action cartoon shot live-action. Plus
> some of it was filmed in Budapest. So it's gotta be good, right?

According to IMDB, he had an uncredited role in the film _The First Deadly Sin_ back in 1980, even before Moonlighting (which apparently began around 1985.) Haven't seen _Hudson Hawk_ yet, but I'll keep it in mind. I did like his acting in _Nobody's Fool_ (the 1994 film of that name), though- wonderful job and not at all typecast. I say this, btw, as someone who readily admits that his movie knowledge and experience could... use work.

-Eric Schissel

mouse Sun Aug 26 21:40:34 2001
Re: Hudson Hawk

you are so sweet to take my reticence for youth! actually i am old enough to remember Moonlighting -- which was very good in the beginning but sorta went downhill the last year -- which may have been one of the things that kinda disinclined me to watch Bruce Willis (unfair, but there you are)

Eric Schissel Sun Aug 26 22:15:33 2001
Re: Hudson Hawk

Michael writes (of Bruce Willis):

> _Hudson Hawk_ was (I think) his first movie, and he played essentially the
> same character. It's basically an action cartoon shot live-action. Plus
> some of it was filmed in Budapest. So it's gotta be good, right?

Further on the same subject, _Hudson Hawk_ wasn't until 1991, while his appearances in _Blind Date_ (1987) and the first _Die Hard_ movie (which I also haven't seen) (1988) predate that (at least according to IMDB, which relies on its contributors and is as fallible as, well, anything else.) (He had another uncredited movie appearance, in The Verdict, before Moonlighting started in 1985, according to the same source btw...)

I have no illusions as to the importance of this very minor point. And anyway I have a webpage about which I still get the occasional email, which I _cannot_ edit anymore for various reasons, entirely devoted to the music of a 20th-century composer. I got his birthdate and deathdate completely wrong. (I had someone else in mind when I typed them, but didn't notice until, years later, it was pointed out to me.) A bit embarrassing as there are enough people, more in England than here, but still enough, who know the right dates...

-Eric Schissel (does other things besides using search engines and databases, yes, why do you ask? ;) )

Michael Mon Aug 27 10:17:06 2001
Re: Hudson Hawk

> Further on the same subject, _Hudson Hawk_ wasn't until 1991, while his
> appearances in _Blind Date_ (1987) and the first _Die Hard_ movie (which I
> also haven't seen)

Oh, yeah. Blind Date. I'd forgotten that one -- it was funny but just didn't have the archetypical impact on me that Hudson Hawk did. Die Hard, now -- I'm just surprised that predates Hudson Hawk. Go figger.






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